Verbi pronominali - Pronominal Verbs/Combinated pronouns




We use the term verbo pronominale (pronominal verb) to describe long verbs like prendersela, in which pronoun particles are added on to the original verb (prendere in this case). But let’s take a closer look at what verbi pronominali (pronominal verbs) are all about.
 
Pronominale (pronominal) means “relating to or playing the part of a pronoun.” In Italian, un verbo pronominale (a pronominal verb) is one that has a special meaning when used together with one or two particular pronominal particelle (particles).

Grammatically speaking, a particle is simply a small word of functional or relational use, such as an article, preposition, or conjunction.

So we have a normal verb, which, when used together with certain particles, has a distinct meaning that is often, but not necessarily, related to the meaning of the original verb.
Technically, reflexive verbs can also be considered pronominal verbs because in effect, the verb is used together with a particle like the si (oneself) in alzarsi (to get up). But these verbs are a special case and not usually called “pronominal,” since they are already called “reflexive.” Learn more about reflexive verbs here.

Verbs can combine with one or two particles. The particles used to make up a pronominal verb are:
la (it)
le (them)
ne (of it, of them, from it, from them)
ci (of it, about it)
Note that La and le are direct object pronouns while
 ci and ne are indirect object pronouns and therefore include a preposition and an object in the one particle.

As mentioned in a previous lesson, a pronominal verb in its infinitive form has all the particles attached to it, but when used in a sentence, the pieces may be partially or totally detached, and hence a bit more difficult to locate.

1) Pronominal verbs may be made up of one verb plus one pronoun particle:
 
smetterla (to quit doing something): 
smettere (to quit) + la (it)

darle (to give them, to give a spanking [idiom]): 
dare (to give) + le (them)

farne (to do something with something):
 fare (to do, to make) + ne (of it, of them)

capirci (to understand [about] something):
 capire (to understand) + ci (of it)
 
Lo sai che รจ la prima volta che in un delitto non ci capisco niente neanche io?
Do you know it's the first time in a murder that don't understand anything about it either?


2) Pronominal verbs may also be made up of one verb plus two pronoun particles (which combine with each other).

The particle ci can be combined with a second pronoun particle, such as -la or -nebut, as we have mentioned before
ci becomes ce when combined with another pronoun particle. Therefore we have, -cela, -cene; NOT -cila, -cine.
 
avercela (to have it in for [somebody]) 
avere + ci + la

farcela (to make it, to succeed) fare + ci + la

Ce la faccio, ce la faccio, ce la faccio.
I can do it, I can do it, I can do it


Since the feminine is so often used in pronominal verbs, especially in idiomatic expressions, we can think of 
la (it) as standing for 
una cosa (something, that thing), 
la vita (life),
 la faccenda (the matter), or 
la situazione (the situation).

Exactly why a feminine pronoun is used in so many expressions with pronominal verbs is not cut-and-dried, and there is no quick answer. If you’re insatiably curious, check out this passage from an online book about the question (in Italian).
3) Pronominal verbs may be made up of one reflexive verb (which uses the particle siin the infinitive) plus a second pronoun particle like those mentioned above:  la, le, ne, or ci.
Prendersela (to get angry, to get offended, to get upset)
Fregarsene (to not care at all about something [colloquial])
Mettercisi (to put [time] into something)

In the following example we have the pronominal verb 
accorgersene (to notice something, to realize something, to become aware of something).
The basic (reflexive) verb is accorgersi (to notice), but the object pronoun particle ne is added as an indirect object pronoun.
 
te ne accorgi solo quando accade.
And you only become aware of it when it happens.
2.Pronominal Verbs
What are Pronominal Verbs and How Do You Use Them in Italian?

In Italian, a pronominal verb is basically a verb mixed with pronouns.
Pronominal verbs look similar to verbs you already know, making it a little bit easier to take a guess at their meaning.
We’re all familiar with the Italian verb ‘andare,’ meaning ‘to go’.
The pronominal verb that looks similar to andare is andarsene.
You can guess by how it looks that andarsene probably has something to do with going somewhere.
Andarsene  means ‘to go away somewhere’.
Pronominal verbs often end in –sene.
The ‘se’ is actually the pronoun ‘si,’ but it changes to ‘se’ because it is preceding another pronoun.
The pronoun it is preceding in this case is ‘ne,’ which is called a pronominal particle. The ‘ne’ often refers to something or somewhere. In the case of andarsene, it relates to somewhere.
Here are some other pronominal verbs that end in –sene:
pentirsene to regret something
fregarsene to not care (only used colloquially) about something
guardarsene – to beware, to avoid something
Any time any of the pronouns mi, ti, si, ci or vi come before another pronoun, like the ‘ne’ of andarsene, they change to me, te, se, ce or ve.
This is just one of those rules you have to get used to with Italian.
Besides –sene, pronominal verbs can have other endings too.
They can end in –sela, -sele, -cisi and –ci, just to name a few.
The common thread is that they are all combinations of verbs and pronouns.
Here are a few other pronominal verbs before we get into how to conjugating them.
volerci to take (as in time, effort, etc.)
cavarsela to manage, to get by
avercela be angry or upset by someone
trovarcisi – to find oneself
dormirsela – to sleep soundly
Let’s use andarsene as an example.
Do you remember how to conjugate andare?
Io vado
Noi andiamo
Tu vai
Voi andate
Lui/Lei va
Loro vanno
the six reflexive pronouns
(the kind you use with reflexive verbs.)
These are:
Mi
Ti
Si
Ci
Vi
Si
However, remember that since these pronouns are going in front of another pronoun, in this case ‘ne,’ they end with e’s instead of i’s.
That would make them:
Me
Te
Se
Ce
Ve
Se
The formula for conjugating a pronominal verb is as follows:
Reflexive verb pronoun + Pronominal particle + Conjugated verb = Conjugated Pronominal Verb
Let’s see what that actually looks like in the case of andarsene.
Me ne vado
Ce ne andiamo
Te ne vai
Ve ne andate
Se ne va
Se ne vanno
The reflexive verb goes first, then the pronominal particle, then the conjugated form of ‘andare.’
Esempi:
— รˆ gia l’una?! Allora me ne vado. – It’s already 1?! Well I’m leaving then.
Te ne vai? Perchรฉ? – You’re leaving? Why?

Let’s see two more examples with endings other than –sene. First, here’s avercela, which means to be angry.
Ce l’ho
Ce l’abbiamo
Ce l’hai
Ce l’avete
Ce l’ha
Ce l’hanno
Esempi:
Ce l’ho con lei. – I am angry with her.
Ce l’ha con me, perchรฉ ho mangiato la sua torta. – She’s mad at me because I ate her cake.

This one’s a little different because instead of a reflexive verb pronoun and pronominal particle, there are two pronouns, ‘ce’ and ‘la.’
However, the format is the same.
The conjugated verb goes last and is preceded by the two pronouns. ‘La’ becomes ‘l’’ because it is preceding verb conjugations that begin with a/h.
This is just a way to make the speech more fluid and beautiful.
With any verb that ends in –cela, the ce and la never change. All you have to remember is how to conjugate the verb that precedes them.
The final example is volerci, meaning to take (as in time or effort.)
This one’s even easier because it’s only conjugated in two ways:
Ci vuole
Ci vogliono
Ci vuole is used when you are referencing something singular;
ci vogliono is used when you are referencing something plural.
This is commonly used in reference to how long it takes to get somewhere.
Ci vuole un’ora per arrivare a Roma. – It takes an hour to arrive in Rome.
Ci vogliono tre ore per andare a Firenze. – It takes three hours to go to Florence.
With any pronominal verb, the pronouns go first and the conjugated verb goes last.
Finally, here are a few more examples of Italian pronominal verbs at work.
Se la dormiva alla grande. – He (or she) was sleeping soundly.
Riuscirร  a cavarsela nel migliore dei modi. – He (or she) will be able to manage it in the best possible way.
Non capisco come mai Marta continua ad avercela con me. – I don’t understand why Marta is still angry with me.
Potrebbe pentirsene amaramente. – He (or she) should hardly regret it.
Have any questions? Leave them in the comments section below.


Combinated pronouns

 



                                                                                 I PRONOMI COMBINATI 







In italiano i pronomi combinati si usano quando 
nella frase ci sono tutte 
e due i complementi oggetto diretto e indiretto.
Esempio : 
Marco mostra il telefono (O. D) a Roberto (O. I.). --> 
Marco glielo mostra.

Maria paga un gelato (O.D.) 
al fratellino (O.I.). --> Maria glielo paga.


I pronomi diretti I pronomi indiretti I pronomi combinati



mimime lo (me la / me li / me le / me ne)



titite lo ( te la / te li / te le / te ne )



logliglielo (gliela / glieli / gliele / gliene)



laleglielo (gliela / glieli / gliele / gliene)



La Leglielo (gliela / glieli / gliele / gliene)



cicice lo (ce la / ce li / ce le / ce ne)



vivive lo (ve la / ve li / ve le / ve ne)



li, legli (loro)glielo (gliela / glieli / gliele / gliene)



ne * --> รจ la variante partitiva dei pronomi 
diretti 'lo', 'la', 'li', 'le'.
La particella pronominale 'ne' si usa quando 
si vuol esprimere una quantitร .



Coraggio, adesso un piccolo esercizio, 
e dopo avrete capito tutto !
Si devono trovare i pronomi combinati adeguati.
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